Daniel Pipes sobre el futuro de Europa: la islamización y la revuelta de lo nativos contra ellas son igualmente probables

He leído en Tundra Tabloids unas entrevista extensa a Daniel Pipes. Insiste en la distinción entre Islam e Islamismo que yo considero que existe pero es minoritaria yy poco significativa, porque quienes dictan la estrategia del Islam son los extremistas en todo caso, y los moderados callan y otorgan, incluso colaboran.

Lo que mas relevante me ha parecido es esta referencia al futuro de Europa. Primero, considera que la islamización y la revuelta de lo nativos contra ella son igualmente probables:

Q: In a recent video interview you said about the future of Islam in Europe that there’s a 5% chance of harmony, and 47,5% chance for either Islam becoming dominant and Europeans reasserting control, and that the latter option might imply a civil strife? Would you explain what you mean?

DP: It’s striking to see that the default assumption of most Europeans is that somehow the European-Muslim relationship will work out. There may be problems today, but in the future it will be resolved. And yet I can’t see the sources of that optimism. If one looks at Muslims living in Europe one finds retreat rather than engagement. The children of the immigrants are more hostile toward existing European civilization than are the immigrants themselves. On the European side, one finds increasing worry, concern, fear of the Muslim presence. So the hope that everyone will get along seems to be not based on reality. Therefore I give it a very low possibility of working out. Not zero, but mimimal.

On the other hand, the alternatives between Muslim domination and European reassertion seem to me rather balanced. I can’t predict which of them is more likely to happen. Crises ahead that have not taken place which will help determine which way Europe goes.

Sobre el suceso que encenderá la mecha, prevé que sea un atentado, disturbios como los de París pero con muertos o la decisión de un gobierno de repatriar a los musulmanes:

Q: What kind of crises are to be expected, beyond those we have already seen?

DP: There have been small crises. The Rushdie affair. The Foulard affair. The pope affair. But these are not real crises. Little riots here and there. But nothing that has really led to major changes. So I think there’s a gap of five, ten, fifteen years to the future. I can’t predict but it could be something like the French riots of 2005, but far more violent – not burning cars but killing people. It could be the election of a government that could decide to send Muslim immigrants back to their home countries. I’m unable to predict the specific nature, I just think there are problems ahead that will show us which way Europe is likely to head.

Por su parte propone políticas multiculturales, que tengamos más ihjos y que los inmigrantes hagan más esferzos por participar:

Q: What could Europeans do to prevent a worse crisis?

DP: There are many steps that Europeans could take. For example, there is the step of integrating Muslim immigrants. In general European countries are what I call large families. You are a member of a country because you come from the bloodline of that country, went to school there, know its language , and share its religion. And now first time ever many European countries, indeed all European countries except France, are faced with the question: what does it mean to be Finnish, what does it mean to be Swedish, what does it mean to be Estonian. You did not have to explain that until now. Now you do. This is a crisis. I think it is a crisis that needs to be attended to. What does one do with people that look different, pray differently, eat differently? How does one create a nationality that includes them?

Also, Europeans need to have more children, if they’re going to sustain their civilisation. Birthrates are very low now. Short of some significant increase, it’s hard to see how a century from now there will be a Europe that is still the Europe of today.

On the immigrant side, there needs to be a greater willingness to participate, and to accept the existence of the European civilisation, and not try to change it, but live within it.

La gravedad de la situación demográfica es obvia, pero la última me parece un ejercicio de ceguera.

Léelo entero: An Interview with Daniel Pipes by Iivi Anna Masso…….

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